Find Me Guilty

Deep Red (1975) IMDB rating: 7.80 Plot: A psychic who can read minds picks up the thoughts of a murderer in the audience and soon becomes a victim. An English pianist gets involved in solving the murders, but finds many of his avenues of inquiry cut off by new murders, and he begins to wonder how the murderer can track his movements so closely.

Actors: Hemmings David,Lavia Gabriele,Pagni Eros,Mazzinghi Piero,Mauri Glauco,Bonamano Aldo,Fanfoni Vittorio,Fioretti Dante,Mariani Jacopo,Horror,Mystery,Thriller,

Should he get this checked?
My partner has a mole on his chest-it is about the size of a matchstick head. He was playing with my little boy the other day and it got snagged. There is no blood or anything but it has gone a very deep red colour and almost flat.(it was a perfect round ball shape). He says it is still sore & has had a plaster over it since it happened. Should he get it checked or will it be okay just to leave it?
Thankyou very much.
it has now fell off????

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Well if he is worried about it get it checked.
j-j | Feb 08, 2010

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you know, my boyfriend actually has that too. he messed with it alot though and kept squeezing it till blood came out (nasty, i know). but his has gotten alot better and is almost gone and he didnt go to the doctor. however, your partner is not my boyfriend so it could be like skin cancer if you guys are out in the sun alot or if they go tanning. so, just to be safe you might want to get it checked out.
Rachael | Feb 08, 2010

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Trauma like this does NOT cause these lesions to become cancerous, which is a popular myth. However if you are concerned about any pigmented lesion it is a good idea to get it checked.
Dr Frank | Feb 08, 2010

Zero Effect (1998) IMDB rating: 6.80 Plot: Shifty timber tycoon Gregory Stark (’Ryan O’Neal’ (qv)) is being systematically blackmailed and the use of regular private detectives have proved ineffective. Stark decides to call upon the services of the renowned, reclusive Daryl Zero (’Bill Pullman (qv)), supposedly the world’s greatest detective. Stark is very surprised to find himself discussing the intimate details of the case with Zero’s amiable associate Steve Arlo (’Stiller, Ben’ (qv)) who explains Zero’s propensity for never meeting with clients. Zero, using his two ‘obs’ of objectivity and observation, quickly discovers the identity of the blackmailer but continues the case in order to discover exactly why the seemingly ordinary Gloria Sullivan (’Kim Dickens’ (qv)) is attacking Stark in this fashion. As Zero becomes more engrossed in the case and, even worse for him, becomes personally involved with Gloria he is forced to decide between the blackmailer and his client!

Actors: Pullman Bill,Stiller Ben,Ryan O’Neal,Ross Hugh,O’Toole Matt,Katims Robert,Henry Tyrone,Watkins Tapp,Comedy,Thriller,Mystery,

Is dxm too dangerous if you have a heart murmur.?
if you dont want to read the background info (i think you should but its your call) scroll down to the question.

First off, I AM NOT INCOMPETENT. I REALIZE ANY DRUG CAN BE DANGEROUS, AND THAT I AM NOT INVINCIBLE. AND I MAKE THE CONSCIENTIOUS DECISION TO USE THEM. I AM NOT ASKING FOR DRUG HORROR STORIES OR ADVICE. I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN, BUT I HAVE ALREADY MADE MY MIND UP ON THESE SORT OF THINGS, AND DO NOT WANT TO ARGUE.

My apologies for my little rant.

anywho. i have dipped into the world of psychoactives on many occasions, and i consider myself moderately knowledgeable on the subject of a few particular drugs i have used. i am not claiming to be an expert or doctor or invincible, but i have done some research and experimented with a few of them.

i have taken dxm a few times and have had zero negative side effects. my buddy really wants to try it and i have told him i would be willing to trip with him, because i enjoy it, and to watch out for him because he does not know what to expect. HOWEVER. he recently told me he has a heart murmur. today he was talking about wanting to trip and i thought maybe his heart murmur combined with dxm in high(ish/er) doses could be straight up deadly.

i want him to have fun, but i obviously dont want him to die. so, with that being said,

if he takes dxm for RECREATIONAL purposes, in high enough doses to "trip" could his heart murmur cause severe negative side effects?

and by severe i mean life threatening, not vomiting or tachycardia, or anxiety, or mild side effects.

what is a heart murmur and will he die if he takes dxm?

THANK YOU.

sorry you have to read all this crap.

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If his doctor says his heart is weakened by the murmur, then he shouldn’t do DXM, just to be on the safe side, because it could potentially affect heart rate/regularity and blood-pressure. Plus, if he had a bad trip the anxiety would be very stressful on the heart.

A word of caution: DXM is one of the more neuro-toxic drugs available. Like PCP & Ketamine, it produces a reaction that can cause irregular blood flow and heat management within the brain, leading to lesions of the temporal lobes (which are very important for understanding speech and time-related tasks). Read more about this on google, erowid, or elsewhere before you decide to take DXM again.
Irrstfay | Feb 02, 2010

Videodrome (1983) IMDB rating: 7.20 Plot: Max runs a TV channel, and is looking for new material to show…he discovers - Videodrome. His girlfriend, Nicki Brand, goes to audition for Videodrome, and Max gets drawn into the underlying plot which uses Videodrome as its front.

Actors: Woods James,Dvorsky Peter,Carlson Leslie,Creley Jack,Schwartz Reiner,Bolt David,Gomez Henry,Chao Harvey,Tsubochi David,Fantasy,Horror,Mystery,Sci-Fi,Thriller,

What is the weirdess Movie you have ever seen?
The Weirdess Movie i have ever seen is Videodrome

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the movie "may"

When May was a child, she was a lonely girl with one lazy eye and without any friend but a weird and ugly doll kept in a glass case given by her bizarre mother on her birthday. May becomes a lonely weird young woman, working in an animal hospital and assisting the veterinary in surgeries and sewing operated animals most of the time. Her lesbian colleague Polly has a sort of attraction for her. When the shy May meets the mechanic Adam Stubbs, she loves his hands and has a crush on him. They date, but the weirdness and bizarre behavior of May makes Adam moves away from her. Alone, May has a brief affair with Polly, but she feels rejected again when her colleague meets Ambrosia. When her doll is accidentally broken, the deranged May decides to build a friend for her, using the best parts her acquaintances can offer.

bitten<3 | Mar 19, 2009

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Check out Eraserhead. It took i think 5 or 7 years to make. It is David Lynch’s first real film, black and white, hard to choose a genre but it is usually horror - it is full of symbols and has never really been explained, and never will be. He started it when he was still studying and it was made literally on a shoestring budget.

You have to watch it with an open mind and you will feel strange after viewing it…..

And if you don’t think it’s the WEIRDEST movie that is great!
me | Mar 19, 2009

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Donnie Darko
p_borino | Mar 19, 2009

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Pan’s Labrynth
~Shadow Of The Day~ | Mar 19, 2009

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The Dark Knight!

Heath Ledger spoiled the film really.
clad | Mar 19, 2009

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A Scanner Darkly
Donnie Darko
Simon Magnus | Mar 19, 2009

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Pink Floyd the Wall
12 Monkeys
Akira
Not the Fallen | Mar 19, 2009

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Vanilla sky or braindead!
Sarah P | Mar 19, 2009

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Vampire’s Kiss starring Nicolas Cage. Or maybe it was just the worst movie I’ve ever seen.
Raven | Mar 19, 2009

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The Rocky Horror Picture Show
calabazas | Mar 19, 2009

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Donnie Darko - seriously freaked me out!!!!
xoxox_deirdre_xoxox | Mar 19, 2009

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Click. It starts off to be a hilarious comedy and then as the movie goes on and on it gets really depressing and upsetting. Then in the end Adam Sandler dies as an old man. Guess what? Its all a dream!
OMFG!ItsADinosaur! | Mar 19, 2009

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eternal sunshine of the spotless mind and
requiem for a dream
Sarah (Noah's Mommy) | Mar 19, 2009

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Tokio Gore Police

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ3vL5E8i 4E&feature=related
jacqueline4481 | Mar 19, 2009

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the mudge boy
emile hirsch is in it–strange, but good
FML | Mar 19, 2009

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My Bloody Valentine 3D….Its supposed to be a horror film but it was more of a comedy…I couldn’t stop laughing!
judy l68 | Mar 19, 2009

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I once watched the cube when I was Very Young but from what I remember it’s really cool but WEIRD and it doesn’t really make sense but it’s wonderfully artisticly done

Oh yes and then the twelve Monkeys is my favoutite brad pitt film but it’s also very weird.
But then again who doesn’t love him and tom Cruise in Interview with a Vampire (don’t really like Tom Cruise but it’s his best film in my opinion)

Sorry I was just babeling maybe that will stretch your minds a bit from donnie darko though now i am planning to see it….
Ccchick | Mar 19, 2009

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Decoys
The Midnight Meat Train
Paris, Je T’aime
Who Killed Bambi?
Anatomy

Not in any particular order.
newmer | Mar 19, 2009

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its got to be the french film innocence, can’t believe it hasn’t been band but i always thought the frogs where weird
Wayne S | Mar 19, 2009

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Trainspotting!
omg watch it. its like the point of view of a guy who takes drugs. some fu’cked up shit.
amytee.x | Mar 19, 2009

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I can’t remember the name of it but it had to do with a company making food out of dead bodies and selling it back to people. It’s a really old film though.
VeryFastMouse | Mar 19, 2009

Minor Details (2009) IMDB rating: 7.00 Plot: Someone’s trying to make the students sick at the upscale boarding school, Danforth Academy! Abby, Paige, Claire and Taylor, join forces to solve the mystery. Could it be Mia or Riley - the girls who have everything that money can buy? Or Emily the know it all Principal’s daughter? Maybe it’s the wacky Sean Meneskie? Or the school’s strange Professor Plume. Whoever it is, the four best friends are going to find out!

Download Minor Details

Actors: Edwards Brady,Cottrill Andrew,Anderson Steve,Thomas Elijah,Gerrish Frank,Prabhakar Charan,Gerald K. Danor,Adventure,Family,Mystery,

When you write a novel, how do you go about all the details?
Okay, so I have some sketches of novels, they seem promising, but I do not know how to elaborate them. Dialogues do not seem so hard, but the minor details and minor events are simply absent. How do I come up with all those details? What do I need to turn a sketch into a full-scale novel?
Thank you very much! All the answers were helpful, it is hard to pick the best one, but I’ll try.

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Break it down into steps. Keeping in mind where the characters/plot are ultimately going, ask yourself, what problems will come up on the way?

If my character Jack is hitchhiking across Rhode Island, what I have to do is break it down into steps. What specific events could make up a hitchiking trip? I’ll make a list of ideas of things that happen to him, problems he comes across (maybe he accidentally goes in the wrong direction. maybe he gets sick.). These little things are what a plot is made up of. Think up about a million of them, and then weed out all but the very best.

Just be sure you keep in mind where your story is headed. Don’t just go off in random directions just to fill paper. Each scene should show the reader something important about your character or themes or plot–preferably every scene should do double duty. It has to have a good reason to be there.

Kei | Aug 13, 2009

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http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/ar t/snowflake.php
BitterBlue | Aug 13, 2009

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I have troubles with the details, too. I always see the scene playing through my head, but when I try to write it out, I miss a bunch of stuff, because I know exactly what is happening and I forget to explain. So I always go back and pretend like I have no idea what’s going on and add the detail.
*The Nerdy One* | Aug 13, 2009

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An author see’s it all in their head. It forms as you type/write. You shouldn’t feel that much struggle, the story is there in your brain, you just need to unravel it.
Describing a building? Picture that building, for me I don’t get to choose the building, when I know how I want it to form it automatically does it. I can’t change what I want it to look like, I think and the details are right in front of me. All I have to do it type them down.
Winny L | Aug 13, 2009

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just kinda write a bunch of little short stories about the characters and paint it together. the details put themselves in if you coax them enoguh. its all about the flow and polarity.
ArielSlayer | Aug 13, 2009

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Write it in first person and then change it into third person, I find this the easiest way to go about description and not to overuse the words ‘he’ and ’she’.

So, get up of your butt, get a piece of paper and pen and walk into any room in your house. What do you notice first? The light shining on the shiny surface of the coffee table? Write it down. Take a note of everything you notice. Is your cat/dog sleeping on the bed/chair/couch? Does he/she notice your presence?

Just keep taking notes until you can’t anymore.

Now, go back to your computer and start writing a paragraph where your protagonist walks into whatever room you have just taken notes of. Use a thesaurus for a range of different adjectives, nouns and verbs.

One thing, don’t bore your readers with description. Same goes with dialogue.

Hope I helped a little I Must Be Emo

Red Violin, The (1998) IMDB rating: 7.70 Plot: In present day Montreal, a famous Nicolo Bussotti violin, known as “the red violin,” is being auctioned off. During the auction, we flash back to the creation of the violin in 17th century Italy, and follow the violin as it makes its way through an 18th century Austrian monastery, a violinist in 19th century Oxford, China during the Cultural Revolution, and back to Montreal, where a collector tries to establish the identity and the secrets of “the red violin.”

Red Violin, The

Actors: Cecchi Carlo,Koncz Christoph,Bideau Jean-Luc,Puntelli Tommaso,Amighetti Samuele,Brugnini Aldo,Groll Florentin,Silberschneider Johannes,Egger Rainer,Koeker Paul,Bock Wolfgang,Mairginter Josef,Drama,Romance,Mystery,Music,

What do you think of my story so far? where can I add more details!?
Well this is my story. It is DEFINITELY a rough draft so please don’t be too critical. Keep in mind I’m 11 and might now have the best vocabulary choices. So if there are any other word choices I could use, any places where I could write a few sentences more about, please help. This may be a sort of more mature topic for me but I know about it. And I am going to write more after, but for now I want it to be checked so I’ll have less to correct in the future. It’s just a short story for fun. Thanks!

Alone
Jess sat at the lunch table, alone in the corner, slowly taking a bite of the flavorless crust on her sandwich. The piercing ache in her chest came back once again. She started blankly at the other popular girls, laughing and giggling with a set collection of people, a group following them around at all moments. They stare at her for a second and smirk, flipping their perfectly cut, styled and dyed hair. Jess looked at her lunch. Paper bag, sandwich and water. She looked at theirs. Chocolate covered strawberries, salad, vitamin water in a pretty silver bag, almost a purse. She tapped her fingers on the table to the beat of Welcome to the Jungle. The

The Bird with the Crystal Plumage (1970) IMDB rating: 7.10 Plot: In Italy, the American writer Sam Dalmas (Tony Musant) witnesses an attempt of murder of the owner of an art gallery, a couple of days before his foreseen return to the United States of America. He decides to stay with his girlfriend Julia (Suzy Kendall) and help the police in the investigation, while the serial killer stalks Julia and him.

Actors: Musante Tony,Salerno Enrico Maria,Raho Umberto,Romano Renato,Castellano Giuseppe,Adorf Mario,Patti Pino,Di Marco Gildo,Bonaro Omar,Mingozzi Fulvio,Peters Werner,Horror,Mystery,Thriller,

Where can I find Giallo film scripts online?
Examples: Deep Red, The Bird With The Crystal Plumage, Non Ho Sonno, Tenebrae etc.

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I don’t have direct links but i know you can search for those specific titles on OVGuide and you will end up with a ton of different links. Hope this helps

BradyBunch1 | Apr 08, 2008

Usual Suspects, The (1995) IMDB rating: 8.70 Plot: After a waterfront explosion, Verbal (Kevin Spacey), an eye-witness and participant tells the story of events leading up to the conflagration. The story begins when five men are rounded up for a line-up, and grilled about a truck hijacking (the usual suspects). Least pleased is Keaton (Gabriel Byrne) a crooked cop - exposed, indicted, but now desperately trying to go straight. The cops won’t leave him alone, however, and as they wait for their lawyers to post bail, he is talked into doing one more job with the other four. All goes tolerably well until the influence of the legendary, seemingly omnipotent “Keyser Soze” is felt. Although set in the modern day, it has much of the texture of the forties, plus suspense, intrigue (a fairly high body count), and lots of twists in the plot.

Actors: Pollak Kevin,Palminteri Chazz,Byrne Gabriel,Baldwin Stephen,Spacey Kevin,Postlethwaite Pete,Del Toro Benicio,Esposito Giancarlo,Hedaya Dan,Bartel Paul,Bressler Carl,Simon Phillip,Shearer Jack,Mystery,Crime,Thriller,

Good Mafia/Mob Movies?
Hi, so far I know off:

1) Godfather
2) Godfather 2
3) Scarface
4) Goodfellas
5) Carlito’s Way
6) Casino
7) A Bronx Tale
Once Upon A Time In America

And a few others like Donnie Brasco, Mobsters and Untouchables, which I didn’t really like. I’m looking for movies made after the 70’s and not before. For the love of god, the only good mafia movie from the 70’s was Godfather.

Movies like The Usual Suspects and Pulp Fiction/Reservoir dogs don’t really count. I’m talking more about Goodfellas/Casino/Bronx Tale type mob movies.

Any advice?
American Gangster? Naah.. I’m looking for more italian then anything… Again, something along the lines of Bronx Tale/Goodfellas/Casino.

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American Gangster?
J | Jan 31, 2010

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Trust me you’ll LOVE this movie "We own the night" - It’s a newer movie, and has to do with the New York Police Department and Russian Mob. One of the best movies I’ve ever seen, I’m sure you’ll appreciate it.
Kevin | Jan 31, 2010

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its a new one but i thought Public Enemies was awesome
crashley | Jan 31, 2010

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The Departed kinda involves that, it’s pretty good. Boondock Saints and Boondock Saints II, also. Gangster Wars is alright, but not one of my personal favs. And then of course there is the Sopranos, it’s not a movie but heh, still good.
~**xXKristenXx**~ | Jan 31, 2010

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The Valachi Papers–real story about mafia+hitman

The Freshman

The Yakuza

Black Rain
marcusjor | Jan 31, 2010

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Once Upon A Time In America
Gangs of New York
The Warriors
Pulp Fiction
Goodfellas
Casino
The Departed
Millers Crossing
Untouchables
Bonny & Clyde
Dillinger
Carlito’s Way
A Bronx Tale
Snatch
The Boondock Saints
Eastern Promises
Four brothers
God Father trilogy

Asian mob movies like:

Internal Affairs trilogy (Asian movie)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338564/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369060/

A Better Tomorrow (1986)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092263/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094357/

Election (2005)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434008/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491244/
6545 | Jan 31, 2010

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In random order:
Road to Perdition, 2002 (set in the 30s)
Miller’s crossing, 1990 (set in the 30s)
The Departed, 2006
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, 1998 (set in England, Heavy Brit accents)
Layer Cake, 2004 (another Brit flick, lighter accents) Daniel Craig, A good Brit mob movie

Cidade de Deus (City of God), 2002 (Brazil, in Portuguese, with English subtitles) A different kind of Mob movie. Based on the child gangs of Brazil. A rise and fall epic tale of 3 young boys. It follows their criminal careers in the late 60s and 70s up to their peak power in early 1980s, when they reach their late 20s. This movie generally makes the top five of almost every mob movie list. Don’t bother with the sequel City of Men.

Heat, 1996 (more of a cops vs robbers, but with some mob elements, De Niro and Pacino together)
The Usual suspects, 1995 (Mob, caper, mystery, thriller)
Blood in Blood out 1993 (epic about Chicano gang wars. 3 teens who grow their separate ways)
American me, 1992 (similar, but better, Chcano prison gangs, mexican mafia)
New Jack City 1991 (Urban mafia movie, black drug lords and undercover cops)
Bugsy, 1991, Famous Jewish mobster of the 1930s Bugsy Siegel, built the first Las Vegas casino.
King of New York, 1990, Chrisopher Walken
American Gangster, 2007, Denzel Washington
Hoodlum 1997, Lawrence Fishburne

Have you seen all the 70s gangster movies or are you just guessing?
Mean Streets (Martin Scorsese’s first Mob movie)
Bonnie and Clyde (An epic about the famous bank robbing couple of the 1930’s)
The Getaway, 1972, Bank robbers, being chased by the mob and the cops
Charley Varrick, 1973, more bank robbers, pursued by vicious mob thugs
Dillinger, 1973
Skyman00 | Jan 31, 2010

Dark Knight, The (2008) IMDB rating: 9.10 Plot: Right after taking out Ra’s Al Ghul’s plan and the mysterious disappearance of Dr. Jonathan Crane AKA Scarecrow, Batman continues his seemingly-endless effort to bring justice to Gotham’s crime and corrupt with the help of Lt. James Gordon and new appointed District Attorney Harvey Dent. But this time, The Dark Knight faces a rising psychopathic criminal called The Joker, who’s eerie grin makes him more dangerous than what he has yet to unleash. It becomes an agenda to both enemies that only one of them remains and are willing to break every part of what they believe in to stop the other.

Actors: Bale Christian,Caine Michael,Ledger Heath,Eckhart Aaron,Oldman Gary,Freeman Morgan,Roberts Eric,Murphy Cillian,Hall Anthony Michael,Carbonell Nestor,Harto Joshua,White Michael Jai,McFarlane Colin,Action,Crime,Drama,Mystery,Thriller,

Who in your opinion are the top 5 movie villains of all time?
Who are your all time favorite villains from Movies?

for me

1. Joker from The Dark Knight(2008)
2. Freddy Krueger
3. The wicked witch of the West
4. Darth Vader
5. Joker from the original Batman (1989)

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1. The Smiths from "The Matrix"
2. Baron Samedi from "Live and Let Die" (his laugh gave me the creeps as a kid)
3. The swarm of robots from the second Matrix movie.
4. I would agree with you on Joker from Dark Knight
5. The little flying eyeball drill thing in "Phantasm".
Don M | Jan 10, 2010

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1. Giggling Hit Man (Richard Widmark) from Kiss of Death
2. Mr. George Harvey (Stanley Tucci) from The Lovely Bones
3. Michael Myers (Various Actors) from "Original" Halloween Movies
4. Annie Wilkes (Kathy Bates) from Misery
5. Baby Jane Hudson (Bette Davis) from Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?
Penny | Jan 10, 2010

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No order

Joker (Heath Ledger) The Dark Knight
Hannibal Lechter (Anthony Hopkins) Silence of the Lambs
Anton Sugaar (Javier Bardem) No Country for Old Men
Norman Bates (anthony Perkins) Psyco

I can’t pick a fifth
justjoshinu12494 | Jan 10, 2010

Dark Knight, The (2008) IMDB rating: 9.10 Plot: Right after taking out Ra’s Al Ghul’s plan and the mysterious disappearance of Dr. Jonathan Crane AKA Scarecrow, Batman continues his seemingly-endless effort to bring justice to Gotham’s crime and corrupt with the help of Lt. James Gordon and new appointed District Attorney Harvey Dent. But this time, The Dark Knight faces a rising psychopathic criminal called The Joker, who’s eerie grin makes him more dangerous than what he has yet to unleash. It becomes an agenda to both enemies that only one of them remains and are willing to break every part of what they believe in to stop the other.

Actors: Bale Christian,Caine Michael,Ledger Heath,Eckhart Aaron,Oldman Gary,Freeman Morgan,Roberts Eric,Murphy Cillian,Hall Anthony Michael,Carbonell Nestor,Harto Joshua,White Michael Jai,McFarlane Colin,Action,Crime,Drama,Mystery,Thriller,

Rate my Spell Counters Deck?
I have a Spell Counters deck, heavily based on Spellcaster Command. I have no synchros (and no money to buy them ^^). It would be great if someone can check it out.

Total (42)

Monsters (21)
Endymion the Master Magician x2
Dark Red Enchanter
Magical Marionette
Chaos Sorcerer
Defender the Magical Knight x3
Breaker the Magical Warrior x3
Magical Exemplar x3
Skilled Dark Magician x2
Maiden of Macabre
Summoner Monk
Apprentice Magician x2
Old Vindictive Magician

Spells (15)
Magical Citadel of Endymion x3
Terraforming
Spell Power Grasp x3
Magical Dimension x2
Mystical Space Typhoon
Lightning Vortex
Magical Blast
Brain Control
Heavy Storm
Swords of Revealing Light

Trap (7)
Pitch-Black Power Stone
Sakuretsu Armor
Hidden Book of Spell
Magic Cylinder
Waboku
Magician’s Circle

Some things about my deck:
I need to draw more cards. Crystal Seer don’t work for me.
My traps are not very good. I don’t know if I should put more.
I don’t want my deck to very big, I think that 45 would be the most.

Also, when giving sugestions mind the Forbidden and Limited list.

Thanks.

Eye of the Beholder (1999) IMDB rating: 4.40 Plot: A nameless private eye (Ewan McGregor) shadows the same woman (who happens to be a serial killer of men) all over the U.S. for 10 + years, without her ever knowing and he strangely enough occasionally acts as her guardian angel.

Actors: McGregor Ewan,Bergin Patrick,Priestley Jason,Nerman David,McCarthy Steven,Vrana Vlasta,Jordan Don,Thriller,Mystery,

I watched a documentary on Discovery, Science or National Geographic about beauty?
A study was conducted and while beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it was found that certain symmetrical facial features or bone structures appealed to nearly everyone. That is, certain facial features makes one "pretty" to nearly everyone else. I wonder, has there ever been a similar study along those lines about music? Specifically classical music. Some prefer Wagner. Others prefer Chopin. Some really cannot stand Wagner and love Mozart. But it seems a larger majority likes Beethoven. Or should I say not just Beethoven but a "circle" of five" Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, Tchaikovsky and Wagner. Is there something in this circle of composers that each one wrote that is similar in structure? I am new to classical music so I do not have the vocabulary to fully express what it is I am asking. Am I trying to make something out of nothing? Are they simply the most prolific composers, end of discussion? Is there something in Beethoven’s 5th that appeals to the majority, or it a matter of exposure? Maybe its a silly theory but I theorize that maybe there is some form, structure, rhythm, combination of melodies, use of certain instruments that will appeal to the masses. If anyone knows of a study or discussion group, blog, or forum would you kindly provide me with a link? Dumb question? Sorry, but its been bugging me.
I only mentioned Beethoven because he seems to be the one everyone knows, from children to adults. Possibly due to exposure, education, etc. I do prefer Beethoven over the others, only to an nth degree. Maybe I should have called theses composer the "fab" five. I picked them off the top of my head because when I began this journey into classical music, these five seemed to always show up in posts. Please do send your email Alberich. Thanks

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You’re making wayyyyy toooo much of it.

They were speaking of symmetry as perceived by sight.

Although classicism was, in Architecture, all about symmetry and pleasing balance of proportion, the idea but not the number or ratio theory behind that was not applied to music.

Mozart is rather well known for his phrases of uneven bar-lengths, five bars instead of four, often by the trick of an extension. Too much metric symmetry in music, or the number of bars, is deadening and dull to the senses. Ditto if a melodic line went up and then down to the same point by way of the same notes - basically what an arpeggio does.

The composers you list so vary in their subtlety, or lack of it, their aesthetic between flashy or discreet, that there is no pooling them together under one common factor of popularity.

I can’t abide Wagner, dislike most of Tchaikovsky, and truly love Beethoven but am not of that hero worshipping school of the Cult Of Beethoven, for example. I love a lot of music from a lot of varying periods, and that has a very wide range of time and styles.

Mass appeal? The obvious, the emotionally obvious, perhaps cast as ‘deep’ Mass Appeal is Andrew Llord Weber and Cats and Phantom of the Opera, not classical and pure crap (well-crafted crap) in the eyes and ears of many an adoring an knowledgeable classical fan.

Forget mass appeal. Classical music has never had a mass or populist audience and it never will.

best regards.

petr b | Dec 21, 2009

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I agree with those who conducted the beauty study as far as facial appeal is concerned; it’s has definitely to do with the bone structure. When you appraise an individual taking into account their entire anatomy, then probably other factors would come into play.

Of all those great composers you’ve mentioned, my belief is that their appeal arises from their distinct individuality, not any shared commonality.

The one of the "circle of five" that you listed, whose music is most universally loved without a doubt is Beethoven. Why? At the moment I’m unable to offer a meaningful explanation; should I later, will return and edit.

The one of that "circle" which has the least universal appeal is undoubtedly my musical idol. Why? At risk of being "pooh poohed", I would submit:

(1) the complexity of his musical palette confounds many; (2) he wrote almost exclusively for the operatic stage; and unfortunately in one of if not the most unmusical of languages; (3) the sheer mass and length of his music-dramas, many are not willing to endure; (4) his harmonic style of never ending modulations with no resolution, is incomprehensible to some - I’ve read that the entire Ring beginning with the opening notes of "Das Rheingold", does not harmonically resolve until the final chords of "Die Gotterdammerung"((and then, only after around 16 hrs. and 4 days(evenings) later)); (5) Wagner in my perception is one of those "mystical" composers: i.e. Cesar Franck - so that if your psyche, soul, spirit(whatever) does not vibrate on a kindred level/plain/at the same rate, so that you can’t "get to where he’s coming from"——-suffice it to say, "That he’s not for everyone".

I can email you an impressive thesis in which the author claims his music is dangerous, and should be avoided: let me know if you’re interested(assuming you received my response email to yours?).

Alberich
Alberich | Dec 21, 2009

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Most musical instruments are decidedly asymmetrical, or played asymmetrically

… I think upright pianos are generally symmetrically ugly, and asymmetrical grands beautiful.
i. jones | Dec 22, 2009